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		<title>By: Ablider</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-157867</link>
		<dc:creator>Ablider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>домашние лечение и поставка медицинского оборудования http://www.ablider.ru/ . узнайте цены на медицинские услуги. полный спектр высококачественных медицинских услуг. оказание медицинских услуг в Российской Федерации от профессионала.</description>
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		<title>By: Who Are The Top Biotech Influencers on Twitter? &#124; Biotechnology and Life Science Marketing Consulting: Comprendia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who Are The Top Biotech Influencers on Twitter? &#124; Biotechnology and Life Science Marketing Consulting: Comprendia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] six months ago, Andrew Maynard (@2020Science) and Mike Chelen (@MikeChelen) analyzed the influence of the then 400 &#8216;Scientwists&#8217; on Twitter compiled by David Bradley (@sciencebase). Since then, I&#8217;ve wanted to do something similar for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] six months ago, Andrew Maynard (@2020Science) and Mike Chelen (@MikeChelen) analyzed the influence of the then 400 &#8216;Scientwists&#8217; on Twitter compiled by David Bradley (@sciencebase). Since then, I&#8217;ve wanted to do something similar for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Science influence on Twitter &#171; LocalLab : Foire aux Infos</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-19378</link>
		<dc:creator>Science influence on Twitter &#171; LocalLab : Foire aux Infos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is by way of a quick follow-on to yesterday’s post on the number of people on Twitter  following science-focused users.  As was pointed out, just [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Science influence on Twitter</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5305</link>
		<dc:creator>Science influence on Twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is by way of a quick follow-on to yesterday&#8217;s post on the number of people on Twitter  following science-focused users.  As was pointed out, just [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is by way of a quick follow-on to yesterday&#8217;s post on the number of people on Twitter  following science-focused users.  As was pointed out, just [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Maynard</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5173</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something the bubble plot does allow you to do is explore the data (tweeps in this case) in a very non-linear way.  It&#039;s fascinating checking out who the different bubbles belong to in the interactive version above.  Now if only the bubbles could be linked to each persons Twitter feed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something the bubble plot does allow you to do is explore the data (tweeps in this case) in a very non-linear way.  It&#8217;s fascinating checking out who the different bubbles belong to in the interactive version above.  Now if only the bubbles could be linked to each persons Twitter feed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Maynard</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5172</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was clever, &quot;twive&quot; would have been a pun - but I&#039;m not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was clever, &#8220;twive&#8221; would have been a pun &#8211; but I&#8217;m not!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Maynard</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5168</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,  just remember what happens to the &quot;redshirts&quot; in Star Trek (the expendables) - I know engineers can be tiresome, but we do still need them :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,  just remember what happens to the &#8220;redshirts&#8221; in Star Trek (the expendables) &#8211; I know engineers can be tiresome, but we do still need them <img src='http://2020science.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Seeley</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was &#039;twive&#039; a pun or a typo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was &#8216;twive&#8217; a pun or a typo?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Maynard</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5165</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Maynard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree wholeheartedly with all the comments above.  Follower count is no proxy for quality - as the rush to follow celeb tweeps would seen to attest!  On the other hand, its useful for getting a feel for how broad these networks are becoming - forgetting the individuals for a moment, and thinking in terms of potential connections between people and communities.

The ScienceBase list is most definitely skewed - I don&#039;t think the claim has been made otherwise.  There are plenty of good and interesting science-types that aren&#039;t listed (and plenty that are, that I would think twive about following).  But again, it forms a useful cohort for getting a feel for how things are developing.

Bottom line thought is that this is little more than data manipulation thumb-twiddling, with some fancy graphics thrown in.  It really needs someone to take the time to set up a robust quantitative study - any takers?

That said - keep an eye out for that &quot;Maynard&#039;s Rats Nest&quot; paper in Nature :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree wholeheartedly with all the comments above.  Follower count is no proxy for quality &#8211; as the rush to follow celeb tweeps would seen to attest!  On the other hand, its useful for getting a feel for how broad these networks are becoming &#8211; forgetting the individuals for a moment, and thinking in terms of potential connections between people and communities.</p>
<p>The ScienceBase list is most definitely skewed &#8211; I don&#8217;t think the claim has been made otherwise.  There are plenty of good and interesting science-types that aren&#8217;t listed (and plenty that are, that I would think twive about following).  But again, it forms a useful cohort for getting a feel for how things are developing.</p>
<p>Bottom line thought is that this is little more than data manipulation thumb-twiddling, with some fancy graphics thrown in.  It really needs someone to take the time to set up a robust quantitative study &#8211; any takers?</p>
<p>That said &#8211; keep an eye out for that &#8220;Maynard&#8217;s Rats Nest&#8221; paper in Nature <img src='http://2020science.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5164</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruth.....Yes, with colour-coded togas (blue for science, red for engineering etc).  Better stop - we&#039;re (I&#039;m) messing up the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruth&#8230;..Yes, with colour-coded togas (blue for science, red for engineering etc).  Better stop &#8211; we&#8217;re (I&#8217;m) messing up the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Seeley</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5161</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think of myself as a sort of Fifth Business in this process, Tim. ;)  Perhaps that apple didn&#039;t fall from the tree, but was, rather, pitched by a a mischievious middle-aged woman. Would things have turned out differently if that were the case?

I don&#039;t really think we want scientists talking to each other more, do we? Think of it this way: the exchange that&#039;s possible is deeper, more meaningful integration of scientists into society and a society that is science and language literate, highly numerate, artistically reverent, technologically proficient - wait I think I&#039;ve just described Ancient Greece. Or a Star Trek episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of myself as a sort of Fifth Business in this process, Tim. <img src='http://2020science.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Perhaps that apple didn&#8217;t fall from the tree, but was, rather, pitched by a a mischievious middle-aged woman. Would things have turned out differently if that were the case?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really think we want scientists talking to each other more, do we? Think of it this way: the exchange that&#8217;s possible is deeper, more meaningful integration of scientists into society and a society that is science and language literate, highly numerate, artistically reverent, technologically proficient &#8211; wait I think I&#8217;ve just described Ancient Greece. Or a Star Trek episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Jones</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5157</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see the front cover of Nature now - &quot;From Lewenstein&#039;s Web to Maynard&#039;s Rats&#039; Nest&quot; ;-).

The debate about who is included as a scientwist or, as Ruth says, self selects as such - and which this analysis invites - is fascinating.  The Science Studies folk would enjoy reacting to the implied exclusivity in the context of &#039;Science Communication&#039;.  Of course, if that&#039;s the intention, to facilitate communication only between currently active scientists, then that&#039;s fine; but I guess right now it&#039;s a little ambiguous.....it&#039;s Twitter!

I haven&#039;t seen the &#039;only a medic&#039; comment, but it&#039;s brilliant.  Of course Kuhn never really counted medics or engineers as scientists; they were too engaged with inputs beyond their control for &#039;puzzle solving&#039;.  I digress.  

This is very exciting.  And while I think it&#039;s great that scientists are talking to one another via Twitter - which by golly they are! -  I&#039;m even more interested to see how scientists and non-scientists use the medium to talk to each other (even with ex-practicing engineering researchers comme moi).       

Great start to many more analyses I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the front cover of Nature now &#8211; &#8220;From Lewenstein&#8217;s Web to Maynard&#8217;s Rats&#8217; Nest&#8221; <img src='http://2020science.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>The debate about who is included as a scientwist or, as Ruth says, self selects as such &#8211; and which this analysis invites &#8211; is fascinating.  The Science Studies folk would enjoy reacting to the implied exclusivity in the context of &#8216;Science Communication&#8217;.  Of course, if that&#8217;s the intention, to facilitate communication only between currently active scientists, then that&#8217;s fine; but I guess right now it&#8217;s a little ambiguous&#8230;..it&#8217;s Twitter!</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the &#8216;only a medic&#8217; comment, but it&#8217;s brilliant.  Of course Kuhn never really counted medics or engineers as scientists; they were too engaged with inputs beyond their control for &#8216;puzzle solving&#8217;.  I digress.  </p>
<p>This is very exciting.  And while I think it&#8217;s great that scientists are talking to one another via Twitter &#8211; which by golly they are! &#8211;  I&#8217;m even more interested to see how scientists and non-scientists use the medium to talk to each other (even with ex-practicing engineering researchers comme moi).       </p>
<p>Great start to many more analyses I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg Heber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg Heber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice list, interesting comparison! But I just like to re-emphasize a point that you also made - number of followers is just one metric.  (I guess I am somewhat in mid-field here so hopefully not too biased either way) We have all seen how fast this number  of followers can change, e.g. with publicity.  On the other hand, some of my favourite twitter friends have (still) comparatively few followers. 

The medium is still relatively new, and we shouldn&#039;t let gravity become its dominating force, but look for interesting tweets from the smaller bubbles, too! 

Joerg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice list, interesting comparison! But I just like to re-emphasize a point that you also made &#8211; number of followers is just one metric.  (I guess I am somewhat in mid-field here so hopefully not too biased either way) We have all seen how fast this number  of followers can change, e.g. with publicity.  On the other hand, some of my favourite twitter friends have (still) comparatively few followers. </p>
<p>The medium is still relatively new, and we shouldn&#8217;t let gravity become its dominating force, but look for interesting tweets from the smaller bubbles, too! </p>
<p>Joerg</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Seeley</title>
		<link>http://2020science.org/2009/04/21/as-twitter-users-skyrocket-how-are-the-science-tweeps-doing/#comment-5146</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other problem is that the list of &#039;scientwists&#039; is self-identifying, so it includes some people who have an interest in science (e.g. Bill Romanos) and  excludes others (like me, I&#039;ve deliberately not listed myself there because my understanding was that it was to be a list of actual scientists, not of those merely interested in the subject). Given that Bill has close to 20,000 followers, I think his inclusion on this list is skewing the data even further.

And then there&#039;s the &#039;medic factor&#039; as well - I saw a comment from one of the early &#039;scientwists&#039; on the list about someone being &#039;just a medic&#039; - I think that was enough to offput a lot of doctors on Twitter from signing up for the list. But that&#039;s just my intuitive, literature-person guess. :) I don&#039;t think @bengoldacre is one of the scientwists though. Some folks just aren&#039;t joiners even if/when they&#039;re engaged with social media.

But I couldn&#039;t agree more: people actually talking to each other can only be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other problem is that the list of &#8216;scientwists&#8217; is self-identifying, so it includes some people who have an interest in science (e.g. Bill Romanos) and  excludes others (like me, I&#8217;ve deliberately not listed myself there because my understanding was that it was to be a list of actual scientists, not of those merely interested in the subject). Given that Bill has close to 20,000 followers, I think his inclusion on this list is skewing the data even further.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the &#8216;medic factor&#8217; as well &#8211; I saw a comment from one of the early &#8216;scientwists&#8217; on the list about someone being &#8216;just a medic&#8217; &#8211; I think that was enough to offput a lot of doctors on Twitter from signing up for the list. But that&#8217;s just my intuitive, literature-person guess. <img src='http://2020science.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I don&#8217;t think @bengoldacre is one of the scientwists though. Some folks just aren&#8217;t joiners even if/when they&#8217;re engaged with social media.</p>
<p>But I couldn&#8217;t agree more: people actually talking to each other can only be a good thing.</p>
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